How would you explain the current
situation of the Libyan reform agenda and what are the priorities
that you are currently targeting?
Trying to reform an economy
is not an easy task, but we have been trying to do that for the past
few months and I feel that so far the results are good. We have achieved
a lot. In the last few years, we have been able to abolish the black
market currency, and we have removed all the license and trade barriers.
These two steps led to a decrease in prices, which consequently led
to the improvement of the populations' standard of living. We are
opening up to the private sector so that it may participate in the
economic process, and the response has been good. We are privatising
almost 360 different plants, factories and other entities. Some of
them will be owned by those who are already employed there, others
will be open for foreign investment and investment from the public
sector. We have opened our doors for foreign investment and the reception
has been good towards all sectors. In the Oil sector we have 138 blocks
open for oil companies to bid on, which has generated a lot of interest.
In general, the process is going well. The main objective is to improve
the standard of living of the Libyan people but of course this cannot
be achieved without some problems. Occasionally, we are faced with
some resistance as we try to implement the new changes, which is normal.
However, we are moving in the right direction.
You mentioned the achievements but
you are also working on the implementation of the banking system and
the revival of the private sector for foreign investment. How do you
think these changes will impact the standard of living in the country?
By removing the unnecessary
bureaucratic rules, you are cutting costs, whether it is in the trade
sector or elsewhere; opening up to the private sector will improve
and enhance competition and efficiency. All these factors will lead
to a decrease in prices, thus the improvement of living standards.
It has also created a lot of jobs, which is one of our main concerns
because we recently started facing a rise in unemployment, which is
very strange in an economy like the Libyan economy. We attract a lot
of foreign workers; there are two million foreigners working in our
economy, while Libyans are losing their jobs. This is a kind of anomaly
that needs to be addressed, which is exactly what we are doing.
Is your background and experience
in the Oil sector, in some way, lessons that you are trying to apply
in the Libyan Reform Agenda?
Of course. I was associated
with the Oil industry long before my work with OPEC. I was present
during the establishment of the Libyan National Oil Company (NOC)
and was part of its Board of Directors. This developed my ideas of
change that I felt needed to be applied in the Oil industry in Libya.
Among the first changes that were implemented was the process of open
bidding. In the past, we were going into oil ventures by holding discussions
with individual oil companies, which is far from transparency and
far from achieving what is best for the country. We are now adopting
the policy of open bidding; there will be basic conditions that everyone
has to meet. There will also be other factors that will be taken into
consideration, for example, if a certain company pledges to give extra
bonuses or build an university etc. Firstly, the company has to be
qualified to apply. Secondly, they have to meet certain conditions
in general and then companies will be judges of what they can offer
as a bonus. We are issuing a new petroleum law. Our old law was the
best in the Middle East at the time it was issued, which was in 1955,
but things have changed in time and we need a law that encompasses
the Oil and Gas and the petro-chemicals industry, as well as the new
realities of the market. Libya has been in the Oil business for nearly
50 years, and its progress has been rapid and impressive. Oil was
discovered in 1959 and started production in 1961; in less than eight
years we were producing 3 million barrels a day, a figure that decreased
significantly because of the embargo that was imposed on the country
and other technical problems, and lack of foreign investment etc.
Now that things are moving ahead, oil companies are coming in and
hopefully this will lead to an increase in our production.
Do you see the oil and gas sector
as a solution to economic recovery, or do you feel that other sectors
should be pushed forward to sustain the economy's development?
The Oil and Gas sector is
currently the most important one because it is the cash product as
they say. Developing this sector will lead to improvement that will
spill over to the other sectors in our economy. Naturally we want
to diversify because Oil is a non-renewable resource and we are developing
other sectors that have a lot of potential. Libya has potential in
agriculture and energy sectors. Additionally, there is the country's
geographical setting; its proximity to Europe works as a gateway to
Africa and as a centre for industries and trade between North, South,
East, and West. That is one of the reasons why we are developing Misrata
(coastal town, 200kms east of Tripoli) into a free port, which will
serve as a place where trade can be enhanced between far-east Europe
and Africa. Therefore, we are diversifying in an effort to be less
dependant on Oil.
To what extent do you think the
tourism sector will change the perception that people have of Libya?
Very few people know about
Libya's history and the fact that there are ancient Roman cities that
are well preserved. Developing tourism is very important, but we should
also be very careful because we may not want this mass tourism that
could spoil these historical sites. We would like to have selective
tourism, perhaps on an educational level but of course leisure as
well - we have places for that. We want to take it step by step. We
have invited foreign investors to capitalize on this sector and in
the future, tourism will be one of Libya's main sources of income,
but this will take time; the infrastructure needs to be built; more
hotels and locations to attract tourists.
With all the recent diplomatic progress
between Libya and the international community, do you feel that you
are on the right track to achieve the harmony that you are looking
for with the West?
I believe that we are on
the right track. We are establishing diplomatic ties and normalizing
relations with different countries. Doing this will lead to more cooperation
rather than conflict and misunderstanding with these countries. We
are opening the way for transfer of technology. Our students will
now have a chance to study abroad and get the proper training and
education. Trade relations will be improving as well. All the recent
political developments are a sign that we are normalizing relations
with the international community and hopefully this will work for
the benefit of all the parties involved; it is a win-win situation.
We need the West and the West needs us for numerous reasons; geographically,
strategically and of course also for our hydrocarbons resources. The
ensuing relationship is mutually beneficial.
Would you say that this improvement
in relations could be translated as a benefit for the Libyan economy?
Yes. This leads to an increase
in trade. The embargo that was imposed on Libya prevented the country
from importing high-tech materials that can develop the oil industry.
Things like desalination machinery or other sophisticated equipment
had to be smuggled or brought in through a third party. The quality
was not always good, but now we can import such things freely, which
will improve the industry.
Can you tell us about some of Libya's
major success stories that have contributed to the country's self-sufficiency?
The Man-Made River Project
would have to be one of them. Water was found in wells that were buried
deep underground in the desert and the amount is estimated at astronomical
figures. It was built because after careful consideration and analysis,
we figured that in the long run, it would be more cost-effective to
invest in this project than it would be to desalinate seawater.
What is your message to those who
want to come and invest in Libya?
We can tell them that Libya
has great potential, particularly due to its proximity to Europe.
Some companies are thinking of generating electricity in Libya and
exporting it to Europe due to the environmental limitations in the
continent. The foreign investor has a lot of incentives to invest
here, first and foremost is the tax cuts. Libya has a good relationship
with Africa; it can be a centre for tourism, agriculture and all other
industries. British businessmen should not only think of trade and
quick business deals but should also consider long-term projects like
agriculture and industrial types of work. They should also bear in
mind that not all the barriers have been dissolved, they might face
some bureaucracy sometimes; we are aware of this and we are trying
to solve it one step at a time. Therefore, the first obstacle they
meet should not discourage them; the board of foreign investment will
be there to help whenever they encounter a problem.
How do you see Libya five years
from now?
The whole world is changing
and Libya is trying to change as well. I think that because it has
great potential, Libya will be the kind of country where the standard
of living will increase rapidly. There is a lot of room to expand
in all the sectors of our economy; therefore we will be attracting
a greater number of tourists and businesspeople alike. The future
looks very promising.
Thank you very much for your comments